Lucien Carbin Video
Fantastic interview with Lucien
Lucien Carbin Muay Thai in
Holland,
Kick Boxen,
Thai Boxing
The first Muay Thai fight between a Thai and a Brit was in Holland.
Here is that story told by one of the fighters Ronnie Green.
Longkedor was a big name around the European Muay Thai shows, or should I say Kick Boxen which later became full Thai Boxing, whatever you would like to call it. Like Bruce Lee said it best: ‘JKD is only a name’. But the name of Longkedor around the big fight nights was that he was a formidable opponent, a Thai.
The big fight should have been Lucien Carbin Holland versus Longkedor from Mungsurin Camp Thailand, but Lucien injured his meta carpal to his right hand and Thom Harinck called Toddy to see if he had a late replacement for the Thai boxing fight against Longkedor.
Master Toddy my trainer asked who wants to fight in Holland and everyone in the Deansgate Gym, as it looked to me, I seem to be in front of the line, I looked down the line left and right and saw that all those that didn’t want this fight all took one step backwards and I didn’t even move, hence as it looked to me I was the only one to step up to the challenge, it looked like I had stepped forward, so anyway since all my training partners had took one step back I was cast into the unknown and was very excited to start fulfilling my dreams, this opportunity meant that I had a chance to go to Holland and fight a great Thai in Amsterdam and the fact of Lucien being injured gave me that tiny cubic centimetre of chance and history was taking place. That day started as just another Saturday at Master Toddy’s Thai boxing class in Manchester.
Back to the fight. I was confident in my training, I knew in myself that I was very committed to training and I was mentally ready. Physically ready, yet I had no idea what was going on. I didn’t know who I was fighting, I had not seen him. Video’s and internet came much later than my historic battles. I knew Longkedors name as did many. This was UK’s first Thai fight and held in Amsterdam, I was just a substitute.
Ronnie Green Fighting for England
Nowadays everyone seems to have videos and internet on most fighters and can watch there opponents via multi media. We were lucky then if some one had a video camera…. Things change and we must change with them. Thai is the time. Ha ha.

In the fight I stopped Longkedor in the last round, the 5th, his corner man threw in the towel. I won the first ever UK Thai Boxing fight. History was made. Me, Ronnie Green from Manchester UK, the Mosside Posse had arrived in the world of Muay Thai. Like I have said many many times before ‘I had arrived.’
I managed to beat the Thai that was supposed to fight one of my all time greats Lucien Carbin. Its true out of misfortune comes great opportunity. If I hadn’t have taken the chance to go to Holland I would never have known! Muay Thai, its training helped me achieve this but my true grit and determination and my willingness to be a showman in the ring, this was my method of taking this opportunity. I went the full 5 rounds against a competitor that at the time he was beating everyone. The crowd from Amsterdam loved this black Mosside Gagamuffin. The Dutch went crazy as the towel went in. Like I told you before I am in a country completely geared up to the art of Muay Thai Kick Boxen – Holland! And they fight against real Thai Champions.
Fighting for Thai Boxing from the UK
This was 30 years ago. The Dutch realised I HAD ARRIVED. By Master Ronnie Green.
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